This episode continues a conversation between Arlene Goldbard, in New Mexico; Sophie Hope, in London; and Owen Kelly, in Helsinki. The conversation begins by discussing the US Department of Arts and Culture, where Arlene Goldbard acts as Chief Policy Wonk.

The discussion looks at the choices of the group to name themselves in this way, despite being an entirely unofficial group of activists. It also looks at the range of work they do, and their plans for the future. We finish by looking at the power of imagining better futures in order to make them, and the ways in which we might start more global collaborations.