François Matarasso and Arlene Goldbard discuss power in the context of cultural institutions.

For cultural democrats, when does working with institutions promise real change and when does the lumbering power of institutions perpetuate the status quo despite best efforts?

In episode 21, with some funny and some infuriating stories about their work with arts agencies and foundations, Arlene Goldbard and François Matarasso offer insights and guiding questions that help to clarify a confusing question.