In October 2019 Owen Kelly and Irma Sippola began two interlocking cultural projects in Kerala, south India, in partnership with SISP, an NGO that offers second chance education and women’s empowerment programmes for people living below the poverty line in the fishing villages in the Kovalam area.

In this episode Sophie Hope talks to Owen about the purpose of the projects, the ways that they work, and the practical details of passing on coding skills to teenagers with little or no prior experience of using computers. They discuss the possibility of developing skills through building a bank of tacit knowledge, without ever “learning”, and then making that tacit knowledge explicit at a later date, as and when it becomes useful or necessary.

They also talk about the possible long term outcomes of the projects.